I totally expected that
Then he took the sticky note, so I was like “hmm, and maybe it will be something useful after all”
And then he took the book, and I started to expect this again
Right headphone :/
Also the background wasn’t convincing enough. I knew something was coming, but didn’t think it would be this simple. Thought it would be something stupid that doesn’t do anything.
I think teachers seriously underestimate just how many of their students cheat and get away with it. “I’ve seen it all, nothing works, blah blah blah.” Sorry, guys, but students are more clever than they are intelligent.
No, you are just lucky they don’t give a damn. You think they really don’t see those weird glares, slightest shuffling movements etc. ? You can actually feel how people behave differently, than if they actually know something and just focus on their work. I think you just underestimate teachers, after all they were also students and most likely made it further than their students will.
Having taught at college, and gotten to know a number of doctors (not just PhD), I think you overestimate the significance of a doctorate. There are some astoundingly stupid people with doctorates. I think Rageman has a better grasp of the situation. Many teachers just don’t really care. My students complained about not having access to their books—after all, in “real life” the references are all available. So, for one test, I let them use the books. I told them this would be the case ahead of time, so they could prepare with that in mind. It made very little difference. The students who generally did poorly spent a lot of time trying to look up things in the book, and while they did better on the questions they answered, they answered fewer and earned scores similar to their usual. The better students didn’t bother with the books. I did my best to ignore the more casual cheating by students. In one case, a student copied another student’s project. If he had only gone to the trouble to change the part with the student’s name, I would have given him credit. Leaving the other student’s name there was just too much to ignore.
disclosure: I do not have a doctorate. I was also not the best of teachers, though I wasn’t bad either.
You’ve clearly never taught college. The pay is extremely low, most of the students just want to do the minimum to get by, and the administration doesn’t want any trouble. As easy as I made it (and I went out of my way to make passing *very* easy), about 1/3 of my students failed each semester. I was most definitely doing my job; you just don’t understand what that job was. My peer review (by a full professor) was quite complimentary, and most of my students were happy with me. Oddly, it was the marginal ones, who got low passing grades when they should have failed, who complained. They said I was too hard. When I was in college, I only had one or two classes that were as easy as I made the ones I taught.
From what I could see, none of my peers made any real effort to catch cheaters. We joked about how bad some of them were, and how some (like the ones I mentioned) were so obvious that we had no choice but to “catch” them. We only really cared about those few students who were there to learn something. Those few made it all worth it.
Not necessarily. I mean as a drama/asl student you learn to monitor body language/movement to only show what you want to convey. As well as anyone with half a brain. Am I going to try to cheat in either of those classes? Well.. yes. ASL no because body language is constantly monitored. Drama you can use almost anything as a prop.
There are also ways to cheat that use natural movements that you use commonly (which are far more likely to work.), or you can set up that those are common movements to you way before the actual test date.
Yeah seems kinda extraneous to do, but it is extremely worth it in the sense of proving that it is not impossible.It’s more of the people that say that they catch everyone that sets it up as a challenge for me.
It’s not feasible/worth it to catch 100% of cheaters.
However, I question why you would cheat anyway. Why go at all? To get a piece of paper that says you know things that you don’t?
I suppose if you’re that kind of person, you’ll probably get a low- or mid-level job where they expect you to know little anyway and re-teach you what you need for the job. In any case, why bother with 4 years of tertiary education? $40k or more and 4 years of lectures and such is a very expensive way to meet women.
Also, why bother with cheating when cramming (also bad, but you might actually remember some of it later) is so easy? Studying is also easy, it just takes more time.
I don’t really understand most deception. I mean, I understand the basic motivation, but it seems like it is rarely based upon logical thought.
THANK YOU! Is it really that hard to realize that by cheating you are only robbing yourself of your tuition money? Teachers have ABSO-FU**ING-LUTELY nothing to lose. They get paid the same whether you pass, fail, cheat, get expelled, etc.
You only need half a brain to realize this. Then again, that’s half a brain more than a lot of people have.
^Teacher trying to validate his life by saying he has “made it farther” than all his students.
Maybe if you’re fidgety about it like a moron. Also a teacher would have to be a fool to think that every student that shifts in his or her seat is cheating. Your comment makes no sense.
I have a reputation for being smart, so sometimes teachers will ignore when I put some study sheet on top of my backpack or whatever to get answers because they’ll think that I just forgot to cover it in my zeal to answer questions, and because I have VERY good peripheral vision.
What happens is that teachers are burned out and underpaid. They figure it is like sneaking candy to a movie theater – as long as you don’t wave it in their face then you’re okay.
Besides, if you cheat you are only cheating yourself out later. The real world actually requires you to know s**t.
If only! Aside from a brief stint in academia, I spent my career in the real world. All too many don’t know their field, and get by anyway. But yes, cheaters are really just cheating themselves. Nobody, for the last couple of decades, has cared what my college grades were, but I care what I learned. In some classes. Except for the stuff I forgot, which is a lot. In academia, I was grossly underpaid, and it didn’t take long to get burned out, so I agree with you on that part too. The “wave in the face” bit reminded me of an RA I had in college. He told us in his intro meeting that alcohol was strictly forbidden on campus, so he didn’t want to see anyone drinking. Therefore, he said, when we had a beer can in the halls we should keep it covered so he could pretend it was a soft drink, and we shouldn’t act like drunken idiots, or he’d *have* to notice. Great RA.
I spent my whole high school life (and now college life) studying and do you know what I found out? Cheaters do better than I do at tests. And that’s all that matters in our system.
I’m an engineering major, and I get mostly high 90′s on exams out of 100, often 100% (not curved).
Perhaps you should consider changing your major to something that suits your style better, or you might consider spending less time doing non-curricular activities (extracurricular, but many attach the wrong meaning to that word).
Or, improve your study methods and habits. Most universities have staff to help with this, but it eventually comes down to trying different things and figuring out what works for you.
Also, make sure you stay healthy – diet and sleep and such.
Cheating in high school classes that a student doesn’t want to take, and is basically being forced to take . . . I don’t agree with it, but I can see where the kids are coming from.
Cheating in college, though? You’re paying good money for those classes; I’d think you’d WANT the knowledge.
Try cheating on any science exam, other than the occasional vocabulary bio exams which can be beat by any number of small hidden list. In physics, chemistry or even advanced maths If you don’t comprehend the material no amount of cheating can help. Those that cheat through these courses are actually intelligent people that can look at a new formula derive it in their heads with “cheat material” and troll the system.
Also consider cheating in the real world like you would on an exam,
Question #1
What is planks constant and how is it used?
TEST….. oh sh3t i better look at my cheat sheet < unacceptable
REAL WORLD …oh i forget better google it quick just to check < acceptable
Mr. teacher person… its good that you want people to study and its all good…
BUT WHY THE HELL DID YOU HAVE TO SHOUT!! I USE HEADPHONES AND NOW MY EARS ARE BLEEDING!!
If my physics textbook actually made any sense, this would work. Since it doesn’t, I have to pester to learn anything.
The book I have gives formulas, but it doesn’t state the thought process involved nor what the variables actually are. As such, it is literally garbled text and broken formulas.
(All books from Pearson Addison-Wesley exhibit this flaw. Other publishers, including Pearson Prentice Hall which is owned by the same company, actually bother putting complete information in their books.)
I’m an electrical engineering major who has a B average.
This guy is of course assuming what is being taught is worth learning.
I can tell you that i am fairly successful for my age (not that you’ll believe me, this is the internet after all) and have not had to use ANYTHING i learnt in the last 3 years of school since i left.
I mean, what does analysing a poem have to do with paying a mortgage?
More importantly, how often will you need to recite something without access to the source material in the real world?
Teachers and the people who create the syllabus are the real idiots here.
http://school.failblog.org/2012/02/04/homework-class-test-study-arrangement-rage-comic/
U mad, teacher?
I don’t get. What do you do with the sticky note?
Bookmark the start of the assigned page range. Kinda silly though.
YOU STUDY IT!
A blank note?
Interesting…
<3
ferst!
I LOLed
fayul
I totally expected that
Then he took the sticky note, so I was like “hmm, and maybe it will be something useful after all”
And then he took the book, and I started to expect this again
I totally expected sound in my right speaker…
Right headphone :/
Also the background wasn’t convincing enough. I knew something was coming, but didn’t think it would be this simple. Thought it would be something stupid that doesn’t do anything.
works every time (assuming the student has a brain)
Eh, most teachers have already caught on to this technique.
^this
The difference is, they’ll usually allow it.
I lol’d.
I was hopeful, but halfway through I figured out that he was just going to be an a-hole.
You must be one of the stupid ones he was talking to…
OMG!
YES!!! This worked! thank you so much!
I think teachers seriously underestimate just how many of their students cheat and get away with it. “I’ve seen it all, nothing works, blah blah blah.” Sorry, guys, but students are more clever than they are intelligent.
No, you are just lucky they don’t give a damn. You think they really don’t see those weird glares, slightest shuffling movements etc. ? You can actually feel how people behave differently, than if they actually know something and just focus on their work. I think you just underestimate teachers, after all they were also students and most likely made it further than their students will.
Yes, because becoming a teacher, especially in the United States, is paramount to “making it further”.
The that to Mr. Gates.
The that to the internet. No one really could have the without the internet.
I assume you meant “say that to”. In any case, Mr. Bill Gates of Microsoft fame is quite an exception (anomaly).
You, on the other hand, are wasting your time on memebase.
Teachers at university are typically PhD holders and researchers.
Think about it.
Having taught at college, and gotten to know a number of doctors (not just PhD), I think you overestimate the significance of a doctorate. There are some astoundingly stupid people with doctorates. I think Rageman has a better grasp of the situation. Many teachers just don’t really care. My students complained about not having access to their books—after all, in “real life” the references are all available. So, for one test, I let them use the books. I told them this would be the case ahead of time, so they could prepare with that in mind. It made very little difference. The students who generally did poorly spent a lot of time trying to look up things in the book, and while they did better on the questions they answered, they answered fewer and earned scores similar to their usual. The better students didn’t bother with the books. I did my best to ignore the more casual cheating by students. In one case, a student copied another student’s project. If he had only gone to the trouble to change the part with the student’s name, I would have given him credit. Leaving the other student’s name there was just too much to ignore.
disclosure: I do not have a doctorate. I was also not the best of teachers, though I wasn’t bad either.
If he had only gone to the trouble to change the part with the student’s name, I would have given him credit.
Have you ever considered, like, actually doing your job?
I was also not the best of teachers,
That’s for damn sure.
though I wasn’t bad either.
Yes you were.
You’ve clearly never taught college. The pay is extremely low, most of the students just want to do the minimum to get by, and the administration doesn’t want any trouble. As easy as I made it (and I went out of my way to make passing *very* easy), about 1/3 of my students failed each semester. I was most definitely doing my job; you just don’t understand what that job was. My peer review (by a full professor) was quite complimentary, and most of my students were happy with me. Oddly, it was the marginal ones, who got low passing grades when they should have failed, who complained. They said I was too hard. When I was in college, I only had one or two classes that were as easy as I made the ones I taught.
From what I could see, none of my peers made any real effort to catch cheaters. We joked about how bad some of them were, and how some (like the ones I mentioned) were so obvious that we had no choice but to “catch” them. We only really cared about those few students who were there to learn something. Those few made it all worth it.
^this. my douchebag retard dunce of a dad managed to get a doctorate, and i am five times more intelligent than him.
Without disputing the basic point — I’ve also known my share of doctoral dunderheads — I can’t help but feel you’re not much older than 16.
Not necessarily. I mean as a drama/asl student you learn to monitor body language/movement to only show what you want to convey. As well as anyone with half a brain. Am I going to try to cheat in either of those classes? Well.. yes. ASL no because body language is constantly monitored. Drama you can use almost anything as a prop.
There are also ways to cheat that use natural movements that you use commonly (which are far more likely to work.), or you can set up that those are common movements to you way before the actual test date.
Yeah seems kinda extraneous to do, but it is extremely worth it in the sense of proving that it is not impossible.It’s more of the people that say that they catch everyone that sets it up as a challenge for me.
It’s not feasible/worth it to catch 100% of cheaters.
However, I question why you would cheat anyway. Why go at all? To get a piece of paper that says you know things that you don’t?
I suppose if you’re that kind of person, you’ll probably get a low- or mid-level job where they expect you to know little anyway and re-teach you what you need for the job. In any case, why bother with 4 years of tertiary education? $40k or more and 4 years of lectures and such is a very expensive way to meet women.
Also, why bother with cheating when cramming (also bad, but you might actually remember some of it later) is so easy? Studying is also easy, it just takes more time.
I don’t really understand most deception. I mean, I understand the basic motivation, but it seems like it is rarely based upon logical thought.
THANK YOU! Is it really that hard to realize that by cheating you are only robbing yourself of your tuition money? Teachers have ABSO-FU**ING-LUTELY nothing to lose. They get paid the same whether you pass, fail, cheat, get expelled, etc.
You only need half a brain to realize this. Then again, that’s half a brain more than a lot of people have.
^Teacher trying to validate his life by saying he has “made it farther” than all his students.
Maybe if you’re fidgety about it like a moron. Also a teacher would have to be a fool to think that every student that shifts in his or her seat is cheating. Your comment makes no sense.
I have a reputation for being smart, so sometimes teachers will ignore when I put some study sheet on top of my backpack or whatever to get answers because they’ll think that I just forgot to cover it in my zeal to answer questions, and because I have VERY good peripheral vision.
You must be a student.
What happens is that teachers are burned out and underpaid. They figure it is like sneaking candy to a movie theater – as long as you don’t wave it in their face then you’re okay.
Besides, if you cheat you are only cheating yourself out later. The real world actually requires you to know s**t.
^This.
If only! Aside from a brief stint in academia, I spent my career in the real world. All too many don’t know their field, and get by anyway. But yes, cheaters are really just cheating themselves. Nobody, for the last couple of decades, has cared what my college grades were, but I care what I learned. In some classes. Except for the stuff I forgot, which is a lot. In academia, I was grossly underpaid, and it didn’t take long to get burned out, so I agree with you on that part too. The “wave in the face” bit reminded me of an RA I had in college. He told us in his intro meeting that alcohol was strictly forbidden on campus, so he didn’t want to see anyone drinking. Therefore, he said, when we had a beer can in the halls we should keep it covered so he could pretend it was a soft drink, and we shouldn’t act like drunken idiots, or he’d *have* to notice. Great RA.
I spent my whole high school life (and now college life) studying and do you know what I found out? Cheaters do better than I do at tests. And that’s all that matters in our system.
Maybe you just sucked at studying?
I’m an engineering major, and I get mostly high 90′s on exams out of 100, often 100% (not curved).
Perhaps you should consider changing your major to something that suits your style better, or you might consider spending less time doing non-curricular activities (extracurricular, but many attach the wrong meaning to that word).
Or, improve your study methods and habits. Most universities have staff to help with this, but it eventually comes down to trying different things and figuring out what works for you.
Also, make sure you stay healthy – diet and sleep and such.
Cheat on all the tests?
CHEAT ALL THE TESTS!! xD
Look dumb at ALL the job interviews? ;_;
CHEAT ALL THE JOB INTERVIEWS!!
Saw it coming
You saw it coming?
*Willy Wonka*
You must be king of the world.
my left ear really enjoyed this
This technique did not work, I want my money back.
You did it wrong.
-notices that this is on ArtofTrolling-
…Was anyone surprised?
I was expecting it to be a Rick Roll.
I kinda saw it coming but I didn’t know for sure XD
In German class my friends and I just whisper to each other and the teacher doesn’t even notice or if she does she just doesn’t care.
He should have spend some time watching some youtube videos on how to get sound to output on left and right side of a speaker.
Also, that technique is old school. Everyone knows that. Is he trying to be famous by claiming he knows the ultimate technique?
the smartest cheaters are like magicians, we never reveal our tricks.
Win.
Cheating in high school classes that a student doesn’t want to take, and is basically being forced to take . . . I don’t agree with it, but I can see where the kids are coming from.
Cheating in college, though? You’re paying good money for those classes; I’d think you’d WANT the knowledge.
Unfortunately my left headphone is busted
Don’t be angry, my left ear is busted, at least you can get a new one!
Try cheating on any science exam, other than the occasional vocabulary bio exams which can be beat by any number of small hidden list. In physics, chemistry or even advanced maths If you don’t comprehend the material no amount of cheating can help. Those that cheat through these courses are actually intelligent people that can look at a new formula derive it in their heads with “cheat material” and troll the system.
Also consider cheating in the real world like you would on an exam,
Question #1
What is planks constant and how is it used?
TEST….. oh sh3t i better look at my cheat sheet < unacceptable
REAL WORLD …oh i forget better google it quick just to check < acceptable
TL:DPR
(to long didn't proof read)
Studying. The ultimate cheat!
I can understand that Mr.Jerk-Teacher is kinda ticked about all the cheating he’s seen, but does he have to /yell/ about it? Just saying. :/
Mr. teacher person… its good that you want people to study and its all good…
BUT WHY THE HELL DID YOU HAVE TO SHOUT!! I USE HEADPHONES AND NOW MY EARS ARE BLEEDING!!
It’s a trap!
HIS FACE REALLY SCARED ME
Admittedly did not call it. But L’d OL after seeing it.
I’M SO PUMPED RIGHT NOW. I’M GOING TO STUDY HARDCORE NOW. THIS VIDEO’S GOT ME SO FIRED UP GGRRAKKRKROWWWW
If my physics textbook actually made any sense, this would work. Since it doesn’t, I have to pester to learn anything.
The book I have gives formulas, but it doesn’t state the thought process involved nor what the variables actually are. As such, it is literally garbled text and broken formulas.
(All books from Pearson Addison-Wesley exhibit this flaw. Other publishers, including Pearson Prentice Hall which is owned by the same company, actually bother putting complete information in their books.)
I’m an electrical engineering major who has a B average.
Called it.
This guy is of course assuming what is being taught is worth learning.
I can tell you that i am fairly successful for my age (not that you’ll believe me, this is the internet after all) and have not had to use ANYTHING i learnt in the last 3 years of school since i left.
I mean, what does analysing a poem have to do with paying a mortgage?
More importantly, how often will you need to recite something without access to the source material in the real world?
Teachers and the people who create the syllabus are the real idiots here.
Totally going to use this for my test tomorrow. Shhh, don’t tell!
I just crapped my pants. That guy is scarier than most of the horror movies I saw.
Mr. Nerdrage