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First, and epic fucking win
You’re a firster, so epic fucking moron.
And you’re a noob of a troll, and I shall not feed you
Thanks for playing, try again some other day
By the way I was saying that the answer is epic fucking win
ahh yes, people who argue over the internet are just like the special olympics ….. even if you win you are still a friggin retard.
Why is arguing over the internet so different from arguing in the real world?
Also, I think you need to look in the dictionary as to what “retard” actually means.
re·tard
–noun
Slang: Disparaging.
a.a mentally retarded person.
b.a person who is stupid, obtuse, or ineffective in some way: a hopeless social retard
Yeah, no. I’m talking about the actual meaning, not the meaning a braindead twelve-year-old assigned it in the hopes of looking cool.
Also, you failed to answer the first question.
Ah yes… Are you perchance referring to the time when it was a clinical term for those whose IQ fell below a certain threshold?
And…. According to the Merriam-Webster Online dictionary:
“2\ˈrē-ˌtärd\ often offensive : a retarded person; also : a person held to resemble a retarded person in behavior”
No, I’m talking about before even that.
Ii’m sorry, what was the first question again?
yeah! another reply
rely reply
You are a trolling idiot, plain and simple.
What’s your point? Take a look at the name of the site.
I’ve looked at the name of the site. Sadly your Trolling is artless. And obvious.
damn required, you stole what i was going to say!
twofaced, you make me giggle. *teehee*
I’m glad I can brighten someone’s day, I actually laughed a little when I read that *teehee*
Wow, what an ugly sentiment to put on here for today.
Agreed.
Site Admin Fail.
Agreed, but then it occurred to me that it’s trolling (and a years-old copypasta paragraph, too), so it’s just doing its job.
Conclusion: I’m going to stop following Art of Trolling. I get enough of this garbage without following a site dedicated to it.
Why is it ugly? It’s a perfectly accurate description. It might offend if you’re one of the minority who subscribe to such beliefs, but it’s still accurate.
Actually, religious people are still in the majority, I believe. But regardless. Pretty much every religion preaches tolerance of other people’s views. This is a good thing to stand by, even if you’re not religious. So everyone, stop insulting each other. Every argument that’s been posted for every side has been posted to death. It’s getting boring.
Every religion preaches tolerance until it gets the upper hand.
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Way to be cynical… (and misinformed)
The Muslim religion teaches that all other religions are wrong, as does Catholicism, and most branches of Christianity. To say, “these other people are going to burn for eternity, what they believe is heresy, but tolerate their presence until they die” isn’t exactly the warmest sentiment, no matter how you look at it.
Not the New Testament, which is all most Christians give a toss about because God is sane in that one. It preaches tolerance of EVERYONE no matter who or what they are.
And the Crusades never happened, right? They’re talking about religious history here, not religious TEXT.
im a catholic and i was taught that every one has a chance, not necessarily that they are wrong, but that God loves them not matter what.
The poster stated it was an “ugly sentiment” because this was posted on Easter Sunday, which makes it in fairly bad taste.
And Christianity is far from being “in the minority”; last I checked it’s still up there as being one of the three major religions in the world. Point is, it doesn’t really matter if you subscribe to the belief in question, it’s kind of like posting slanderous things about Muslim beliefs during Ramadan. It’s just in very poor form.
oh really? I thought it was hilarious! but granted, i’ve spent my whole life having my religion made fun of, I guess Christians just aren’t used to it?
I get Jewish jokes!
As was stated above, it was bad timing, but it doesn’t make it less funny.
Put that way, Christianity is even better than Pastafarianism…
Not true, Pastafarianism is only the greatest religion out there.
And while the zombie Jesus rib-woman line is nothing new, it’s still refreshing.
pastafarianism doesn’t hold a candle to dudeism. what could possibly be better than a religion whose central belief is to abide?
people need to chill it on the name-calling, because christians and atheists both use “straw-man” and “poisoning the well” argumets. it’s the general practice of all humans to try to discredit their opponents using simple tactics.
athesim is simply the lack of belief in any dogmatic religious system. true, today most scientists are atheist or some form of agnostic, but that is most likely a method of trying to stay as objective as possible in a time where religion and science keep butting heads. while it’s true religion has tried to put the kaibosh on scientific advancements before (Galileo, Columbus, the Scopes travesty, etc.), the earliest scientists were all MEN OF GOD (sorry to the feminists, all scientists then were men, and sorry athesists, but its true). science used to be a gift from god because he gave us rational minds to percieve things the way we do.
and as far as new knowledge that debunks old, here’s one: epigenetics. we used to think that mapping the human genome would unravel the puzzle of existence, but it has only given us a bigger one. certain genes can be expressed in different ways, but not only in the sense of phenotypical variance: i’m talking completely different complex disorders. the best explaination we have now is epigenetic influence, which means that there are chemicals in our systems that actually influence how entire sections of our DNA are expressed. the most interesting part of this is that if we can figure out how these chemicals work, we can actually reactivate genes in our DNA that were not functioning previously, including the gene that allows our bodies to produce cancer fighting substances. genetics is becoming old science, and epigenetics is coming in with little fanfare but once the public catches on, it’s gonna explode.
Im sold too
this answer is the most beautiful thing i’ve read in a loooong time
Yep, that pretty much sums it up.
FUCKING DUMBASS!!!! FAIL, SOOO HARD!!!. Everyone, that noob troll, cut this, word for word, from a cyanide and happiness comic.
And your point is?
So?
You don’t really understand how trolling works, do ya? ‘Cause you’ve just been. You got all worked up over it; he wins.
It doesn’t matter WHERE the words come from. What matters is the response.
Congratulations. You’re now troll-bait.
Yes Doctor, when you put it that way. You could also word Atheism in the same way. For example.,
Atheism: The belief that there was nothing, and then nothing happened to nothing, and then nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything, and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason whatsoever into self-replicating bits which then turned to dinosaurs. Makes sense. Truth hurts Atheistic douchebags.
See below.
so essayons, you are suggesting that a magical man hiding in the sky made all of that happen? there is proof that the big bang could have happened, (which it probobly did) and that this man created the entire world in 6 days, yeah, that sounds pretty realistic, and how would adam and eve make every single race in the entire world, and if you are suggesting adam and eve are real, then everybody is inbred, all of a sudden, your logic doesnt sound as smart, does it?
p.s.- did you know that most scientist are atheists? just something you should know, unless you think you are smarter than scientists…
How does anyone know what happened eleventy zillion years ago to start the universe? Nobody knows. A tiny ball of mass exploding into the vast universe sounds less plausible as God waving his magic wand to do it. Science is full of theories, religion is full of faith. And we don’t know which one is right, or if both are.
And I may not be smarter than a scientist, but I sure as hell am smarter than you.
No, but science is constantly evolving. Religion stays much the same. One day, we will understand the Big Bang or whatever (provided we don’t destroy ourselves beforehand).
Religion does evolve some. Not nearly as much as science, and everyone’s beliefs are a little different. Everyone takes what they want from it. Some of us even believe that science is God’s way of letting us understand how His universe works. Being religious and believing in science aren’t mutually exclusive.
Exactly. I’m a Christian, but I take proven science over the word of a book written by people thousands of years ago and translated and changed and translated again.
Xenon, why are you even a Christian then? You sure don’t fit the definition of Christian in my book. You’re basically saying “Yup, I’m a Christian, even though Christianity isn’t real”. What the heck???
I mean that I believe (or would like to. Since that comment, more and more things have happened to test and strain my faith to breaking point) in a God, but, for example, I take the Big Bang and evolutionary theory over creationism.
I would like to believe in a God, but I don’t believe in people or what people say about God. Plus, I think the genesis was written ages after the things related happened, so it could be based in legends.
As a final point Galileo was accused of heresy for saying the sun is the center and the earth turns around it… like Big Bang theory
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This.
Xenon, you are awesome. Congratulations on proving that people can have faith in something and also be capable of thinking for themselves.
I agree with you completely. Science has more proof of a biblical creation than it does of the Big Bang. Both theories require faith. Evolution is a religion.
Wow, ihaetypos. About that 6 day creation thing, people argue over whether that was 24-hour periods or not. Just be open-minded. Not everything that is written down is literal. Sometimes the meaning is slightly different than what is written. If you don’t believe me, read a novel and take everything that is written down literally. God could have created the earth over thousands of years. Look at what essayons wrote about atheism- “nothing become something for no reason”, sorta like that. I guess animals developed instincts out of… nothing. And look at all the proofs that the Bible is real. There are plenty of them, believe me. I’m not saying evolution or a big bang never happened. The Bible doesn’t explain everything to people who read it. Maybe God created Earth in a big bang-like mater. You can believe what scientists think happened zillions of years ago, or you can believe a book written 2,000 years ago. Your choice, man.
Probably the issues that most people have with the bible is that apparently someone thought “Holy shit! God looks like a jack ass in the old testament! We need to make a newer one where he’s a nice guy!”
These people apparently think that they can just write a new bible and just say “Oh this is the word of god too, it’s just nicer”
In my opinion, the Old Testament is the history of the world and the New Testament is what the Bible is truly about.
have you ever even read the bible???
try to look at things from the outside perspective: most of the bible seems very much about cult beliefs and some random religious people telling everyone to give money and gold.
the new testament is even worse, brining myths and stories about a supposed virgin who gives birth to a guy who pissed off some romans and was too stupid to run away when he had the chance.
remember that the bible was written a few thousand years BCE and the new testament was written a few thousand years after jesus died.
tl;dr
BWARP! Wrong. Try again. The woman you are talking about, known as primordial eve, is STATISTICLY a RELATIVE of every one alive today. Not the ansestral mother, and not the first human. The patterns of genetic drift simply suggest that at a point in the history of Homo Sapians existed a women who’s alleles have drifted down to most of mankind. The same is true of a male, primordial adam, but he was born several thousand years after eve. For more information read The Ancestor’s Tale by Charles Dawkins, or hell, ask a high school science teacher. Genetic drift is a rather basic subject.
Adam and Eve were real and they didnt create the entire race of humans, when God created adam and eve he created all other races too, its just that he chose adam and eve as the bloodline that Christ would be born through.
So where did God come from? It’s ultimately the same question.
what im saying, is there is no god, if you didnt get that from my last post…
Really? How do you know this?
It should be deemed the default that there isn’t, seeing as how there is no proof for it whatsoever. Instead of religious people trying to make their absurd views fit around scientific discovery, they should dismiss what can’t be proven and believe in what is logical.
i know that god does not exist in the same way that you know zues is a myth…
Zeus* spell it right…and no one can say: “God doesnt exist cause ive never seen him” OF COURSE NOT!!! He’s supposed to be a SPIRIT like your soul can see him…but not your physical body…DUH
you are saying you cant prove there is a God…well then prove there isnt ine either.
With that question, you are assuming that God ‘abides’ in this universe and lives by its laws. An even harder question for atheists to prove is this: Is the universe rational? Scientists are just as much working on faith as the ‘Religious nuts’ as they have been called earlier on the page.
No, because scientists will adjust their beliefs. If they find out the universe is irrational, that’ll simply change our understanding of it.
but if the universe is irrational, you would not be able to hold any understanding, because then all knowledge would become relative or irrational.
Yes, but religion is relative or irrational RIGHT NOW.
I think that puts science in the lead.
Essayons, I wonder if you really believe that atheists/scientists think that everything magically rearranged itself for no reason whatsoever into self-replicating bits which then turned to dinosaurs. We’ve got hundreds of reasons and theories as to why this happened; these reasons are based in solid logic and reason (ha! reasons based on reason!). Laws of thermodynamics, emergent complexity from simple systems, the Law of Dinosaurs Are Awesome… I’m pretty sure the only people who believe anything was random or magically delicious or any of that crap is religious yokels with half a brain and no capacity for logic/comprehension!
Yea? How many countless times has science been disproven over the centuries? Looking at history, all the scientific theories that exist today could all become completely obsolete and thrown out 100 years from now! Here’s the thing, Humans 200 years ago had some theories, and because in their viewpoint, they were so far the most advanced, knowledge-full generation as of yet, so of COURSE they thought their understanding of science was superior to all that came before! The same can be and IS applied to todays human generation. We think our science is so concrete, that any disagreement to it MUST come from people with no logic/comprehension. And that, just plain bullshit. Everything you know now could be completely turned upside down Tomorrow.
Here’s the point. What are you? You are a tiny speck of flesh probably 20-80 years old in a vast Universe that has been around for an incredible amount of time. What in the hell do YOU know? Us as humans ignorantly and blindly think we have a firm grasp of what reality is. We’ve only been here a tiny amount of time and have mostly been confined to a single little planet, to say we “know what’s going on here” is just blatantly stupid. That’s why it’s a logical fallacy to be an Atheist. you could say the same thing about a Theist, I suppose, but the thing with Theists is, they actually give the unknown and seemingly un-realistic notion of a supreme being a CHANCE. Wich is helluva lot better than being convinced of it’s impossibility. So really, if you’re gonna be an Atheist, don’t be a fool, be agnostic about it.
*facepalm*
Yes, science has been disproven. But a lot of science has SMASHED religious beliefs. Remember when those wacky Egyptians thought the sun was a supreme being? Remember when the universe revolved around Earth? Remember when Earth was flat?
Science will get disproven, yes. But that is no reason to support religion. You can believe in science and religion at the same time. I do. But I take what science has proven over religion. If it gets disproved later (something I keep in mind), well that’s our understanding of the universe growing. How is that a bad thing? If science didn’t exist, yes, some things would be better (no nukes, for instance), but we’d also be in the dark ages. “Science is bad because it is disproven as we learn more” is the most stupid argument I have ever heard.
The important thing is that we are willing to accept error and adjust our ideas/hypotheses to fit the facts, however the religious folk have stood firm on the idea that one dude blew the universe out of his ass and sits in the ether automatically seeing, knowing, and controlling everything, everywhere, at every waking moment
I’m not even going to go into the idiocy of the man that spewed that little gem out of their face hole, but one thing you have to admit is that while our hypotheses match the facts we have theirs is based solely on some book which could just as easily be some stoner’s wild imaginings as the word of god
*gets off his soap box and strolls away with a curt bow*
Again with the Poisoning the well and strawman fallacies! you are making a fool of yourself (a scientist, a person who abides by logic) by making a small, insignificant point then slandering the other person.
I’m sharing my personal beliefs, I’m not saying that to bolster my statement by destroying theirs, I’m saying it because to me it’s just fucking ridiculous
I am not unwilling to recognize that there are things in this world that can’t be explained scientifically (the Bermuda Triangle, the Oregon Vortex, etc) however I am also unwilling to believe in something that seems to only exist in a book of fairy tales
Actually, the Bermuda Triangle is perfectly normal, I believe. But thanks for the Oregon Vortex. Never heard of it before. Don’t believe a word of it, but I’ve never heard of it.
It says that most but not all of the disappearances were explained, and some claim to have debunked the Oregon Vortex however there is still photographic proof to suggest otherwise
Just because a disappearance isn’t explained doesn’t mean that it’s not scientifically explainable. And the Oregon Vortex isn’t as well known. Maybe people just haven’t done much research into it. Wikipedia’s very short article on it would suggest so.
Look at it this way, hundreds of years ago, the most brilliant minds thought that the world was flat and the entire universe revolved around the earth, 50 years ago the most brilliant scientific minds would have laughed if you said that you could create a device that could function as a phone, music player, calender, alarm, GPS, and connect to a network of electronic connections that allowed you to talk, and send information instantly around the world
My point is there is always a point where we think we understand everything, but we only understand what we see, and what we see isn’t always what is real, science isn’t an exact science pure and simple
True. But I still think that, given enough time, things will be explainable.
“however the religious folk have stood firm on the idea that one dude blew the universe out of his ass and sits in the ether automatically seeing, knowing, and controlling everything, everywhere, at every waking moment”
Wow. That’s a great way to mock people’s beliefs. Do you enjoying looking down on us from your pedestal? You believe what you want to believe, but don’t you dare fvcking mock me for what I believe.
Way to victimize yourself, now why don’t you get off the cross, you’re not Jesus, and you better be ready to accept criticism and defend what you believe or be confident that you’re right and just ignore others, but don’t turn this on me because that is the sin of spin
good christian cussing, so tired of you people thinking you are going to heaven because you believe something someone else doesnt, and then go against the very commandments you so desperately cleave to…
Sure, science gets disproven.
Religion does too sometimes.
Science can admit when it’s wrong.
Before someone says ‘I’m religious and I can admit when I’m wrong’, I’d like to say I mean religion AS A WHOLE has difficulty with this.
Essayons Said: ‘Humans 200 years ago had some theories, and because in their viewpoint, they were so far the most advanced, knowledge-full generation as of yet, so of COURSE they thought their understanding of science was superior to all that came before! The same can be and IS applied to todays human generation. We think our science is so concrete, that any disagreement to it MUST come from people with no logic/comprehension.’
You know the same dynamic applies to religion right? Change in your quote the number 200 years to 2000 years and science to god and it’ll still make sense as applying to ie Christianity.
“all the scientific theories that exist today could all become completely obsolete and thrown out 100 years from now”, you know you are wrong, but what might be correct is all forms of religion may be thrown out in a 100years.
So, what about irreducible complexity? Which came first, the protein, or the enzyme that was created by the protein that creates the protein? If something cant function without its flagella, which according to evolutionary theory would have taken millions of years to develop, how does that thing survive for those years?
Some other way, clearly. If it didn’t have a flagella, it’s a different organism. Once it developed a flagella, there, it’s the thing we know and understand today.
You know what? I believe in God, and I’m not a “religious yokel.” I think your assumptions of religious people are crap.
So thats 2 fallacies of logic: ‘Poisoning the well’ and the ‘Strawman Fallacy’. You are painting a caricature of the opposing side which does not fully encompass its point or views, or just emphasizing the worst parts. So are you saying that we should all convert to atheism, thus increasing the crime rate tenfold and lowering the life expectancy drastically?
Athiesm does not mean you have no moral and I’m not even going to begin to try to figure out where you pulled life expectancy from.
I guess he is saying all atheists are junkies and drunks.
I’m sixteen, so my life experience is limited, but I’m confident enough to declare myself an atheist, and say I’ve never been drunk or high, in fact I’ve never even smoked. I wish I could say as much for my Christian friends, as well as the Mormon guy behind me in French class. Same goes for crime, I’m not a criminal, and again I wish I could say that about some of my friends. I’m not bashing religion, it gives a lot of people comfort. I just wish they’d stop bashing ME.
This.
Yeah, THIS.
Atheism = increasing the crime rate tenfold and lowering the life expectancy drastically????? How did you com to that conclusion.
I don’t remember the exact numbers in the study, but there was a US prison census none a few years back. I think it said that 40% of Americans are Catholic and 40% of prisoners are Catholic. Meanwhile Atheists are 16-20% of the nation, yet only 0.2% of the prison population. Likewise, many of the most secular European countries are much less religious that the USA, have lower crime rates and have greater earning potential per-capita.
Also, scientists are the ones that are responsible for the lengthened lifespans we enjoy. Advancements that prevent or fight disease, and make life easier. Not to mention further breakthroughs that could come from stem cell research, which many religious people oppose.
I concede my point.
not just religious people….think about it…do you support the killing of unborn babies??? that doesnt really have to do with religion as much as it has to do with it being ethically right…its not..
I’ve been an atheist for about 4 years or so now (before that I was agnostic for about 3, and Christian before that), and I’ve yet to go stab someone because I’ve realised there’s no divine retribution for the act. Morality can be derived from so many different sources. The most potent, is society, which enforces its own morality. If you treat people well, you will be well treated in return, which results in you experiencing positive emotions, and makes your existence more pleasant. It’s simple, and it makes your actions actually relevant to your life.
In fact, religion is possibly one of the worst places to draw your morality from, seeing as how it lifts peoples morality beyond the physical world, and allows them to justify causing horrible scenarios such as the 9/11 bombings, the dark ages of scientific repression, some of the nazi movement, the muslim and islamic conflicts, the war over Xion, and I’m sure countless other religiously based acts of violence or terrorism.
You don’t need religion to be a good person.
Wow, you’re a complete jackass.
Actually, all atheism is is a lack of belief in god or gods. The big bang and evolution don’t even come into it.
But nice try.
huh?, if you believe that the universe cannot just exist, it has to have been created by something/someone/somebeing then by that same reasoning you should believe that the creator has to come from somewhere too. otherwise your argument becomes fallacy
Problem is the paragraph about Christianity was biblically accurate. However, no Athiest thinks that anything remotely ‘magical’ occurrred. Athiests believe that the big bang happened, and we have no possible was of knowing what caused it. (Although something probably did.) Also, ‘magical rearrangement for no reason’, presumably translated to ‘entirely explainable Physics followed by Chemistry followed by Biology’.
I’m fine with the dinosaurs though. Now it’s been turned into truth, that truth doesn’t hurt so much after all. Doesn’t it hurt to be caught out attempting to troll people via misunderstood knowledge of their world view?
As opposed to atheism:
The belief that there was nothing and nothing happened to make nothing explode, creating everything which all magically rearranged itself to form everything and stopped for no reason.
Point being: Know both sides of the debate
What makes you think they’re athiests? Also, it’s a troll. Who cares? If you’re too uptight about religion to take or make a joke about it, you should be banned from that religion for being an extremist. I’m Christian but I make jokes about Jesus taking three days to respawn.
Also, you’re wrong. The universe was not nothing, it was just very small. The universe was not created by nothing happening, we just don’t yet know what happened (hence the Large Hadron Collider). The universe didn’t magically rearrange itself, learn physics. The universe is still changing on a constant basis. Point being: know what you’re talking about.
Word. And not everyone who is not religious buys that other stuff. The only Big Bang Theory I believe in is the TV show.
I wouldn’t, that show sucks…
You speak of knowing both sides of the debate, yet your reply shows that you don’t even begin to grasp the big bang theory or cosmology in general.
No one ever said everything came from nothing. What became before the big bang is unclear. It could be eternally existing matter/energy, pure energy, equal parts positive and negative matter/energy that sprung forth from vacuum fluctuation, etc…
Everything can be broken down to very basic elements, so it is not surprising in the least that there is such variety. Post ‘big bang’ there would have been large hot clouds of matter and energy. The more concentrated, the greater the gravitational force. These areas would eventually coalest into stars and other bodies. As we know, stars are great at fusion, and thus can create a wide variety of elements as well.
Also, this process hasn’t stopped as you claim. It is very well known that the universe is still expanding to this day. And by measuring red-shifting we can measure the rate of this expansion.
We could get on the topics of abiogenises and evolution, which are very elegant processes. But that would likely be too long winded for this forum.
His point was more that Atheism can also be simplified into a caricature of the original idea that is easy to make sound stupid, not the bashing of atheism.
Not really. That simplification of Christianity was pretty accurate.
It was a straw man argument and “poisoning the well” tough. Logically false.
Use of the word “Zombie” shows this clearly. A “zombie” a negative word that doesn’t really explain the christian position.
Also, the point about “live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh” is wrong. According to (biblical) belief, eating the bread and wine is symbolically remembering Jesus’ sacrifice for us, not something we do to be “saved”.
The “evil force” thing is also totally wrong. When people sin against God it’s breaking His laws (which are a reflection of His character). Jesus came to take our “punishment” for breaking said laws.
If you punch your friend in the face, you might get punched back (maybe in a fight) but that’s about it.
If you go punch Pres. Obama in the face, you’ll end up in jail for quite a while.
Imagine the severity of the punishment for breaking an eternal God’s laws?!
Lucky for us God saw fit to save us from all this….
Yet people still will mock.
Not all zombies are bad. Watch the original Day of the Dead.
And Jesus sacrificed himself to save us so we could live forever in the kingdom of heaven.
The evil force is a metaphor for your sins.
Therefore, accurate.
“Eat this, for it is my body/Drink this, for it is my blood” sounds pretty symbolic, and worded to where if someone, say, a five year-old took it literally, they’ll actually think they’re eating a 2000+ year old dead twice guy.
catholics believe priests have the power to convert the wafer and fermented grape juice into jesus’ flesh and blood: it’s called transubstantiation. and i know that some of the older protestant belief systems like lutheranism and presbyterianism in their traditional forms. truthfully, there is really very little difference between the older forms of christianity. once you get to american christianity though, you get evangelism, pentacostalism, mormonism (i count it, they believe in jesus, dammit), seventh day adventism, and jehovah’s witnesses. american christianity is very much different from european christianity, generally. also, what’s the deal with all the evangelicals from australia? what’s going on there?
No, it wasn’t. It’s the kind of crap that arrogant atheists like to think about Christianity to make us all look like medieval morons. Geez, atheists sure have a stick up their butt about Christianity. How about you believe what you want, and stop mocking us? Either that, or fvck off.
I AM a Christian. Read my other posts.
I’m confused then. Your posts seem to say that science is good, religion is nonsense. Overall, despite what you’ve seen of me here, I tend to be pretty liberal in my views of religion and can take a joke (Dogma is one of my favorite movies for example). But what I can’t stand is people openly mocking my beliefs. I apologize for misinterpreting your posts, but you didn’t sound that Christian. Maybe you were playing devil’s advocate.
I just reread some of my posts and I realize I came off as pretty pissy. I’m not usually that nasty when I post on other Cheezburger sites. You might say I’m even pretty amazing on the other ones.
Don’t worry. I can be a bit of a git too. XD
As I just posted in response to another comment of yours, I’m a Christian, but when religion and science contradict, I take science over religion. This may be because my faith wavers a lot, but I’ve always felt this way, even when I became confirmed.
Atheism- Keeping an open mind to what has happened and only believing it if it has logic and truth to it.
Where do you think GOD came from then? In that sense, he himself magically rearranged everything.
That exact same thing was posted further up.
Also, atheism simply means a lack of belief in god or gods. The big bang and evolution don’t even come into it.
But nice try.
If you can only attack strawman you have already lost.
I really have to remember that phrase.
That paragraph is an old meme. If you’re praising him on his originality, don’t. Someone wrote it a long time ago, and it has been used ever since.
This should be on the EpicWin page!
I fail to see why: if posted there, a good many people which go there would be greatly offended, thus they would stop looking at the blog, and it would lose money. Basic capitalism.
Most likely just uptight Christians are offended by this, other people find this funny. Anyway…
You like being mocked then?
You’r fat, ugly and your mom is a whore.
Don’t be uptight now! Other people will find this super funny!
I’ll admit, I found it funny, if only because it’s “you’re.”
And that’s not the same. The point was that you shouldn’t be so uptight about your RELIGION that you can’t take a joke about it. I’m not saying you should sit down and shut up against hate speech or true insults, but you should be able to take a simple, harmless joke. I can. Hell, I make jokes about Christianity myself.
Then you must really enjoy Buddy Christ.
Never heard of it. *Googles* Never seen any film with it in.
Then you must watch Dogma immediately. Buddy Christ isn’t a character. More of a prop in said movie. It’s a hilarious poke at primarily Catholicism. It doesn’t slam religion as a whole, but it does take some very funny jabs at some of the problems with it.
Probably nothing I haven’t done already (:P), but I’ll keep an eye out for it.
Yes, I’m laughing. AT you. Not WITH you, AT you.
Everyone’s failed to notice that the answer on the screencap is a COMPLETE RIP-OFF of Tyler Oakley’s video on Youtube about finding religion.
Tyler Oakley’s gay. So, does that mean “EETxFUK” wishes he were gay? Yeah. Probably.
Except lameo noticed it was an old meme. So, points there.
Wait, what does “ripping off” (I prefer quoting, in this context) a man’s quote have anything to do with that man’s sexuality? The fact that you brought it up makes me question YOUR sexuality.
He was looking to illicit a humorous response. He got one.
Lol. I am gay. Hahah
god you people are boring.
Thanks. I try so hard.
Well, I tried very hard to wade through all the hypothetical guesswork on this forum, and found no good evidence in either direction. Most of this seems to be attempting to tear down the opposing opinion. I’m not even going to mention my beliefs.
Smart move.
It’s just a giant penis measuring contest, it’s in your best interest to not get involved, but once you are.. well why not go and fuck shit up a little, no?
You believe in Canada I’m assuming. That tells us all we need to know.
actually the eating flesh thing is catholosisim- catholic cant spell sorry
…And maybe half of all Christians belong to the Catholic Church.
And besides, it’s in the Bible, and it says that “this bread is my body, eat it, it has been given for your sins”, sorry for saying it crappily but I’m not English and that’s how I remember it from the Bible, which I haven’t read for a long time.
At least the Lutheran Church says that during Lord’s Supper you meet Jesus, and really eat his flesh or something.
Ever hear of symbolism?
transubstantiation.
Successful troll attempt is successful lol
“Science adjusts its beliefs based on what’s observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that belief can be preserved.”
Thank you Tim Minchin. That is all.
sooo, uhh, who told him that?
How come scientists don’t adjust their “faith” in macro-evolution, which has never been observed?!
Because, currently, it makes the most logical sense.
Scientists are not SCIENCE.
Seeing all the debating going on here I must say..
This Yahoo! Answers answer is the SINGLE MOST SUCCESSFUL trolling I’ve seen thusfar
Yup. Cyanide & Happiness comic. Nice try.
The answer is the exact reasoning I am an atheist. That’s is what most major religions believe in a nutshell. Just not the same wording.
No, you’re an ignorant idiot who doesn’t really understand what’s going on but likes to look smart.
Typical Atheist really.
No, that would be a typical moron (if true). Have you ever encountered a Christian extremist? If not, I hope you never do. It made me embarrassed of my own religion.
Xenon nailed that one. The extremists of our religion are an embarrassment. Most Christians are not freaks. We’re usually pretty normal folks.
Same goes for Muslims. I don’t actually know any, but I watch the news, and the majority of the population of the Middle East seem like nice guys to me, it’s Al Qaeda and the Taliban giving them all bad reputations.
While Christian extremists are just embarrassing and very annoying, Muslim extremists are killing people by the truckloads. Just an observation. Most Muslims are definitely nice people, though. And yes, I really mean that.
“The answer is the exact reasoning I am an atheist. That’s is what most major religions believe in a nutshell. Just not the same wording.”
Hey, ‘Your Lord’, I’ll just copy what essayons wrote—-
Atheism: The belief that there was nothing, and then nothing happened to nothing, and then nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything, and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason whatsoever into self-replicating bits which then turned to dinosaurs. Makes sense.
It’s called the “Chaos Theory”
Sometimes things happen because of a random, unforeseeable course of events, the universe is indefinite, and if we can’t explain it, well, then we just accept that sometimes things happen for reasons we can’t understand
That almost sounds like an explanation Christians give to people, TwoFacedAngel. Sometimes we wonder why we experience certain events, but we should just accept it because God makes things happen for reasons we don’t always understand at the moment.
No, it’s called being modest, I accept that not all things are explainable, but I’m not going to go and make a book of fairy tales and say “This dude has all the power in the world and here’s a book of stories that we’re just going to throw away because it’s really mean”
That’s totally accurate…
Thats a classic Straw Man Fallacy of logic if I ever saw one…on the freaky clown’s part
First off, yes, scientific ideas are always being disproven – by other scientific ideas!! Science itself can never be disproven, by it’s very definition, since once it is disproven it is no longer science.
Secondly, this isn’t a straw man, since xtianity really does say all that, however saying that atheism or even science says that we came from nothing is a straw man since that is not what we are saying.
yes, you are correct.
It’s poisoning the well though.
Oh and it is a “Strawman” which is deliberately giving a weak representation of the others view.
Basically, it’s crude mocking of people’s beliefs.
Religious/Political arguments are SO FUN in the comment streams!
/sarcasm
Feel free to suck on my retarded religious nuts, pal.
We normal Christians want nothing more than for you atheists to leave us the hell alone, and stop mocking us. We don’t give a rat’s ass what you don’t believe in. Please show us the same respect.
Actually, that’s not true. Some idiots preach that everyone who doesn’t worship God is doomed to Hell and don’t shut up when trying to convert others.
That’s why I said NORMAL Christians. Those freaks make us all look bad. Many of them (like those Westboro nutjobs or Pat Robertson) are people I don’t even consider Christians. But I think most of us (that I’ve met) are perfectly happy letting atheists do their thing as long as they don’t mock us for doing our thing.
I heard about the Westboro crackheads the other day. Spent three hours poring over their God Hates Gays website, pointing out every flaw in their “reasoning.” ‘Twas fun.
My brother protested them when they visited our city. That was pretty cool of him.
Congrats. I would too if they ever came over near where I live.
I’m an atheist and I say I (non-homosexually) love you, can we be friends?
By the way, I don’t mean anything by saying (non-homosexually)other than telling you that I’m not homosexual , I have a girlfriend.
Know what I mean, Jelly-bean?
Eet fuk! James Hetfield’s guitar from the late 80s!
Science and Christianity are not mutually exclusive and can easily reconcile with each other on every point, except one. and it’s a pretty important point. Christian scholars insist that the universe is only 6,000 years old.
Yeah, but that is complete bull. God created the world in six days. But how long IS a day to God? It could be a billion years.
Is that sort of how the first few pages of Genesis work, too? ‘Cos they’ve got people living nearly a thousand years in there, and even compared to Jesus the Zombie, that seems a touch far-fetched.
Again, just to avoid haters, I’m just trying to further my understanding of the world I call home.
do people simply stop existing when they die (trying to think about that is……. i mean seriously i can’t even imagine what it’s like)
take a look of the earth from space and tell me it all happened by chance??
seriously?
that the human brain was created by chance??
i read somewhere that the purpose of life is to live, reproduce then die. so why do we have emotions?
how can you look into someones eye and tell me that they go out of existence when they die. then what’s the point? why aren’t we just mindless animals?
Yes. It happened by chance. Life could have very easily not existed on Earth in so many different ways. I don’t know if there’s a heaven or not. You know what I think? I think there’s no point worrying about it.
does life really have to hinge on the existence of an aferlife? scientists haven’t disproven god, and anyone who thinks so is an idiot. science can’t prove or disprove god simply because he/she/it is beyond human scientific reasoning. god is infinite, we are finite. some choose to believe, some don’t, and we won’t know the “truth” until the end. until you die, you don’t know whether heaven exists. i hate when christians and scientists alike apply their beliefs beyond their limits. christians can’t know whether heaven, hell, god, or the devil exist at all because faith is not fact. fact can’t explain heaven, hell, god, or the devil; any pseudo-scientific jargon about the multiverse or other planes of existence is pure conjecture (in other words, a guess). all the layman can do is just abide, and wait for it all to end while making their time on earth a little less shitty.
for the record, i go beyond agnosticism and atheism to just not caring about religion or dogma at all. it’s like arguing on teh internets: utterly pointless, at least as far as i can tell.
I think religion is simply an answer to needs and fears. The fear of dying, the need of a divine justice… and especially the Unknown. Whatever floats your boat, Of the thousands of years human have existed, there has countless religions with immortal Gods, most of them now dead.
It is a lot like astrology, you read something, then try hard to believe and actually see it. And the one time the prediction come true, out of hundreds, you get the “proof” that the horoscope actually work! The power of the human mind to deceive itself is truly unparalleled.
Athism isn’t the belief in the Big Bang Theory or magical explosions that created the world. How was the world created and how did scuch wondrous life come to be?!?11 and What happens when you die?? you ask. Well, here it is folks :
I don’t know.
Sometimes, you just have to accept that.
Incidently, I think it’s not exactly science that causes the decline of religion, but the answers it provides. Life, thunder, disease, etc. It is now not the Bible you look into for answers, but science and Google.
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Usually I avoid talking politics and religion. That said, I for some reason (instead of just being content to read and chuckle over the post then move on.) Decided to read the comments made.
I find it interesting that people preach and argue and fight over such things. Christians talk about “The new” this and “the new” that. Others bring in Mormons and science and point out things going on in the middle east.
Was it not Christians that killed witches and so on? Killed off any who did not accept Christ as their savior or the one God as the only God? Did they not demand to be the one true faith? You forget that it was MAN who wrote the bible? Do you not take into account that MEN tend to lie cheat steal murder rape and slander? Just as most of you are doing or have done?
This post was simply for a giggle to start with, I am sure. But the more of you who get involved in the argument after are the ones who are pushing it further past a simple bluntly put outlook on the religion. Does the bible not say “turn thy cheek” and “love one another”?
My own beliefs I would usually not bother voicing, because I know that most of you would say “THAT IS WRONG!” or “You’re going to burn in hell or hang on a cliff in suffering for all of your afterlife.” However, maybe I can point something out to you people by saying it. It is morbid and straight from the heart. I believe in man.. Man is his own heaven and or hell.. and we all hope and pray for something more than this life because its a very depressing thought to think this is our one and only life. If we believe in Aliens we are insane. If we believe in ghosts or heaven and some hire being, we are ignorant and innocent. I believe that humans have the power to make their own lives into heaven or hell. I believe that we could live without “my religion is better than yours!” by simply accepting all for what they are. Positive and negative people throughout life help to shape your own life.
If you learn to accept other peoples opinions, no matter how wrong you feel they are, and be less sensitive (aka don’t get so offended over someone’s bluntness and accept their blunt honesty no matter what form it is in.) then things like this will not matter. And should not matter ever if you’re such a devout believer.
What I believe to happen when we die is a simple release of energy into a collective energy that flows through all of this world and galaxy. We become one and have no memory or desire or anything about our past lives. Eventually our energy is used up and put back into whatever living being. Be it plant animal or person. In a way it is a sort of Oblivion. Who we are now does not matter in the end. But I would rather create heaven here in our own lives before meeting with that oblivion. I would rather share with my fellow men and women a love that was taught through observation, experience and understanding. Shed apathy and learn empathy and forgiveness. Treat others how you yourself would like to be treated. Raise your kids to be, not just a working supportive member of society, but a person who is strong kind loyal and able to think and stand alone. Try to do the same for yourself if you feel the need.
But hey, just my opinion. Might be a bit to hard for others to accept or swallow or turn the other cheek to.
This. ^
Its funny what 9 noble virtues will lead you. Still pisses me off the most insightful thoughts on the subject are thousands of years old and yet our shield bashing is what gets written down.
I may disagree with certain aspects of this, yet I feel absolutely no compulsion to try to convince you otherwise (unlike most of the other comments here). This is quite possibly one of the wisest comments I’ve seen on memebase (crazy, right?). There needs to be more people like you on the internet.
Oh my.. this is going to explode.. violently
And yes, hello
Ah hell, my post disappeared when I loaded the page so I thought the mods deleted it -___-
Yes, contrary to popular belief, there actually is a moderator for this site that screens/approves comments. Thankfully, I don’t have to censor much in the way of commentary; I’m all for heated debates and flaming. The links were the problem in your post.
I suppose this wouldn’t be a true site about trolling if you didn’t allow just about every damn things through XD
Bwahahahaha! Oh I fucking love this! So true, so funny. I also love all the comments! People take such offense at making fun of religion. Seriously, grow the fuck up, k? Everyone can have their own beliefs. I don’t care, neither should anyone else. Agree to disagree. Buuutttttt, that wont happen, so I’ll continue to have so much entertainment from it all
Indeed, and if you watch the Daily Show you’d know something just as ridiculous
Revolution Muslim, a group of people who glorify Bin Laden and celebrate 9/11 complained that an episode of South Park was inappropriate because it portrayed Mohamed improperly
We allow them to live in New York, a stones throw from the former World Trade Center, glorifying a man who was responsible for a series of attacks on US soil, all because we respect people’s right to free speech THAT much, but when we make a joke about their religion, OH NO! WE’VE GONE TOO FAR!
Weee didn’t start the flame war!
It was always burning since the world’s being turning?
Any religion can be dumbed down like that. Any one.
I’ll just point out this belief of Islam-
Jihad- if you die killing innocent people who don’t think the same way as you, you will be rewarded.
I’ll just point out this little bit of truth-
Jihad- NOT AN ACTUAL PART OF ISLAM
The pillar of Jihad was added by Islamic extremist, get your facts straight
Good point, but that would still make it PART of Islam belief.
But I don’t quite recall directly saying it was an all-around belief in the Islam faith…?
It’s no part of the Islamic faith, some ass hole jotted it down as a footnote in his copy of the Qur’an so he had an excuse to bomb people
FIRST!
Epic fail
Nah, that was just a troll. Ignore him; he’s clearly starving.
After reading all the comments, I forgot what the picture said 0_o I swear, I don’t have a brain. Anyway, watching everyone feed these religious trolls is very interesting
Singularity Cat is incomprehensible.
Wow this ”Xenon” kid seriously needs to shut the fuck up.
I are not a baby goat!
Not sure if trolling or just insecure.
You know, I see these posts and all I see is dislike for Atheists and Christians alike. I consider myself a Christian, because I have a relationship with Jesus Christ. I will never be a sinless person, and to be straight with you, I wouldnt WANT to be. My personal belief is that if I were to not associate with non-believers, I would not be doing what I should. Jesus of course chilled with all of the sinners and outcasts, not the hypocrites. Don’t get me wrong, I have friends who are Christian because if I need help with something involving my relationship with God, I can ask for prayer and they also lift me up and can be accountability partners with me. However, I have many many Atheist, agnostic and just in between friends that I love so dearly. I hate the fact that they dont want to have a relationship with God and Jesus Christ, but I do NOT hate them. I do not judge people on their religions simply because would Jesus Christ do that? Many people have a warped idea of what Christianity is. Yes it can be religion when people stop loving and their egos start growing, and when people care nothing for others and make no effort to show people the love of Christ through their actions. I just wanted to say this all not to glorify my own actions either, but to just say that the key to life is love, and I strongly believe if you cant love, you cant survive.
(I also am not talking to anyone in specific here. I am not looking for any arguments, simply to share.)
Thanks!
Addison
This probably won’t be the case for long, but this has been shared 666 times on Facebook as of this writing… I guess that’s a sign that God wants me to worship the Devil. Amen, brother!
It’s a good thing my religion is Common Sense.
wow.
*tear* my children have learned so well..
Christianity is so amazing. I’ve never been prouder.
Ok, just a question, what’s the difference between an agnostic person and a theist? Because from what I understand of agnosticism (sp?) and what I read about theism from above, they are the same exact thing to me. And so if they are the same thing, why not call them the same thing? Makes sense to me.
sucessfull troll is sucessful
aliens
The sad part is that the reply is true in a way.